Month: March 2022

Flashes beat Ohio 59-50 but lose MAC Tournament bid on tiebreaker rules

Lindsey Thall became the top 3-point shooter in Kent State history during the Flashes’ win over Ohio. She made three 3-point baskets to break a tie with Larissa Lurken and now has 215 in her career. (File photo for KSU athletics by David Dermer.)

Kent State won a game it had to tin on Saturday, but it still wasn’t enough to qualify the Flashes for next week’s Mid-American Conference Tournament.

Despite KSU’s 59-50 win over Ohio at the M.A.C. Center, the Flashes lost the last spot in the tournament field due to conference tiebreaker rules.

Kent State finished the MAC regular season 10-10, the same record as Bowling Green and Western Michigan. Ohio was 9-10.

So according to the MAC’s complicated tiebreaker rules, seedings for the tournament needed two steps.

The first was among Kent State, Western MIchigan and Bowling Green, all of which finished 10-10. In games among those three teams, Bowling Green had a 3-1 record (1-1 vs. Western and 2-0 vs. Kent State) and WMU was 2-1 (1-0 against KSU and 1-1 vs. BG.) That resolution gave Bowling Green the sixth seed and Western the seventh.

That left KSU (10-10) and Ohio (9-10). But during the Omricon outbreak in December and January, the conference decided that a game canceled due of COVID shouldn’t penalize a team. So league rules for this season said that if teams played an uneven number of games and had an equal of wins or losses, they would be considered tied. The regular tiebreaker rules the MAC uses every season would then be in effct.

The teams split their regular-season games. The next tiebreaker compares the team’s record against ranked conference teams, starting with the first-place team.

Ohio was the only team to beat MAC champion Toledo. The Flashes lost to Toledo in the first game of the MAC season. So Ohio got the eighth seed.

(That explanation is slightly different than the one I first reported, but the result was the same.)

The MAC finally did post the reasoning behind all of the tiebreakers.

So Kent State’s season is likely over. The Flashes’ overall record of 18-11 could qualify them for the Women’s National Invitational Tournament, but the Flashes’ ninth-place finish in their conference will weigh against them. NIT bids will come out next Monday, March 13.

“We did what was in our control,” coach Todd Starkey in his postgame press conference, which was held before the tournament field was officially announced. “But at the same time, we also put ourselves in this situation.”

The Flashes lost four of their last six games, all against teams ahead of them in the standings. One win in those games, and they would have been in the tournament.

Three milestones to note before the story of the game:

  • Senior forward Lindsey Thall made three 3-point baskets to set a Kent State record for most 3s in a career wtih 215. She had been tied with 2017 graduate Larissa Lurken at 212 going into the game.
  • The win was Starkey’s 100th as the Flashes’ head coach. He ranks third all-time in wins at Kent State with a 100-76 record in six seasons.
  • Junior forward Nila Blackford moved into 10th place on KSU’s all-time rebounding lists. She now has 690. If she rebounds as the same pace next year, she could reach at least third place.

Winning with defense

Ohio came into the game with the second-best scoring average in the MAC and 24th best in the country. Kent State held the Bobcats almost 25 points below its average and 10 points lower than any other game this season. The Bobcats made 26.9% of their shots, 13 percentage points below their average and their lowest this season by 4.5 percentage points.

OU’s Cece Hooks, who is the MAC’s all-time leading scorer with 2,803 points over five seasons, scored a season-low eight points. She made only 4-of-21 shots, 0-of-6 three-point shots, and, astonishingly, 0-of-11 free throws in 39 minutes. (She was a 60% foul shooter going into the game.)

“We threw different looks at her,” associate head coach Fran Recchia said in a postgame radio interview with announcer David Wilson. “We threw height at her. We threw speed at her and just tried to keep her out of rhythm. We were being physical through the paint, just not giving her just any easy layups.”

Starkey said that toward the end of the game, the Flashes were deliberately fouling Hooks on drives. “She finishes at such a high rate, we wanted to make sure she wasn’t getting easy buckets,” the coach said.

Starkey was still highly complimentary of Hooks.

“I told their staff before the game that no matter what happens, I still win — because I don’t have to coach against her anymore,” he said. “She’s been a phenomenal player and at times, unguardable.”

Kent State held Erica Johnson, Ohio’s second-leading scorer at 16.3 points per game, to 5-of-21 shooting and 1-of-11 on 3s in 39 minutes. Gabby Burris, the Bobcat’s third-leading scorer at 14.5 points per game, scored just five points in 38 minutes.

“I thought our defense was phenomenal,” Starkey said. “Our players really did a great job of listening to the game plan and making Ohio take tough shots.”

Ohio’s own defense was very good. Kent State shot only slightly better than the Bobcats —27.1% from the field and 27% from 3-point distance.

But some of Kent’s 3-pointers were key

Kent State led for all but 52 seconds of the game, but Ohio kept it close throughout and cut the score to 45-44 with 4:28 to go.

But on the next possession, freshman forward Bridget Dunn took a pass from senior guard Mariah Modkins and hit a 3-point basket from the right corner. A minute later, Modkins herself hit a 3 from the top of the key to give Kent State a seven-point lead and control of the game.

Modkins, who is barely 5 feet tall, made the 3-pointer over Ohio’s 5-11 Johnson.

“The shot clock was winding down, and she put her hands down,” Modkins said. “So I pulled back, shot it, and it went in — the nail in the coffin.”

Kent State had 10 three-pointers to OU’s seven. That and KSU’s 17-to-7 margin at the free-throw line were the difference in the game.

Lindsey Thall’s 3-point record

Thall’s record-breaking basket came from the top of the arc just two minutes into the game.

“Amazing accomplishment, Lindsey!!” Starkey tweeted after the game. “The thousands of hours in the gym shooting 10s of thousands of shots led to this…”

“It means a lot,” Thall said in the postgame press conference. “All that working hard at shooting in the gym over the years paid off. But it’s all due to my teammates, getting me open and getting assists to put me in position.”

Thall finished with nine points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and a blocked shot in a team-high 35 minutes.

Though she started every game while she was healthy in her four years, Thall said after the game that she plans to return for another season. An NCAA rule because of COVID granted players who participated last season an extra year of eligibility if they want it.

Thall is from Strongsville. She had a large group of family members, all wearing special T-shirts, sitting behind the KSU bench.

“They’ve always got my back, always yelling in my ear,” she said.

Running the numbers

  • Kent State had a season-high 51 rebounds to Ohio’s 41. Thall and Hannah Young had eight, Dunn seven and Blackford, Katie Shumate and Clare Kelly five. The Flashes had 15 offensive rebounds and 10 second-chance points. Five of Dunn’s rebounds were on the offensive end.
  • Shumate led the Flashes with 12 points. Casey Santoro had 11 points, Thall and Dunn nine and Kelly eight. Young led the team with three assists.
  • Ohio scored 17 points off 17 KSU turnovers. Hooks and freshman YaYa Felder had four steals. Felder led the OU with a career-high 20 points on 6-of-12 shooting and 4-of-4 on 3-pointers. She also had eight rebounds. No other Bobcat made even a third of her shots.

Box score

69-60 loss at Bowling Green leaves KSU with a sketchy chance to make MAC Tournament

Lindsey Thall made four 3-point baskets and tied Kent State’s record for 3-pointers in a career. She joins Larissa Lurken, who graduated in 2017, at 212. Thall also had 22 points, four assists and two blocked shots. (File photo for Kent State athletics by David Dermer.)

UPDATED UPDATE:

We’re back to the drawing board on the possibilities of Kent State’s making the MAC Tournament next week. I received this message from Jay Fiorello, KSU’s assistant athletic communications director for women’s basketball.

“I was wrong about how ties with 3+ teams are settled, so disregard previous info. Spoke with Kyle Klein at the MAC, and they are still working through all of the scenarios.”

I don’t blame Jay. The situation is absurdly complicated. Even the people who created the rules haven’t been able to figure it out yet.

STORY FROM LAST NIGHT STARTS HERE

(Tiebreaker computations probably aren’t correct.)

After Kent State’s 69-60 loss to Bowling Green Wednesday, it looks very uncertain about whether the Flashes will make the Mid-American Conference Tournament next week. (Recap of KSU-BG game is at end of this post.)

The Flashes are 9-10 and in ninth place in MAC. Only the top eight teams make the tournament.

Kent State plays Ohio (9-9) at 1 p.m. Saturday at the M.A.C. Center. If KSU wins, it would be 10-10 while Ohio would be 9-10.

But I finally saw the MAC tie-breaker rules for this season about an hour after the game tonight. They’re very complicated and not encouraging for Kent State

Let’s start with this: If KSU loses to Ohio Saturday, it will be 9-11 and out of the tournament. No other team can lose 11 games.

If KSU beats Ohio, it gets complicated — so complicated I spent a couple of hours on it and got a headache. And anything I write is, of course, very unofficial. The MAC will only tell us officially after Saturday’s games.

So here goes this unofficial lesson in tiebreakers:

Because of COVID-19, the MAC adopted an “unbalanced tiebreaker policy” this season.

One of its rules is that if the teams have played an uneven number of games, ties come from the number of wins or the number of losses, not the overall record. So Ohio at 9-10 and Kent State at 10-10 would be considered tied. Three other teams — Bowling Green, Northern Illinois and Western Michigan — could also finish 10-10 and join the tie. It’s possible Ball State could finish 10-9 and join the tie.

The MAC has all sorts of further tiebreaker rules — one set for when two teams tie, another for when more than two teams tie.

If we somehow come down to head-to-head records, Kent State would lose tiebreakers against Bowling Green and Western Michigan and win against Ball State.

The Flashes split with NIU and would split with Ohio if they win Saturday. So the next tiebreaker is a team’s record against the first-place team in the league, then the second-place team, etc. Both NIU and Ohio have beaten higher-ranked teams than Kent State. So the Flashes lose those tiebreakers.

Looking at Saturday’s schedule, it’s almost certain that more than two teams will have 10 wins or 10 losses.

In ties of two or more teams, the MAC says, ranking goes by the record of each team against all other tied teams. For example, KSU’s overall record against Bowling Green, NIU, Ohio and Ball State would be compared with each of those teams’ records against each other and Kent State.

A lot depends on which teams tie. But if KSU and Ohio are in a multi-team tie, the Flashes could have better record. Both teams are currently 3-5 against all teams with a chance of tying.

But the MAC also says, “Once a three-team tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker will go into effect.” I really have no idea what that means.

Remember KSU loses all those tiebreakers except to Ball State, which would have to lose to 4-15 Eastern Michigan at home on Saturday to fall into the tie. If the Cardinals win, they’re 11-9 and ahead of the pack.

So maybe KSU has a chance of squeaking in. If they do, the Flashes will play regular-season champion Toledo in the MAC quarterfinals. The Flashes lost to Toledo 69-60 in the first league game of the season. They did lead in that game going into the fourth quarter.

Do I trust all my computations? Not really. But it’s the best I could do.

Here are the MAC tie-breaker rules. If you read them differently than I did, let me know.

Below the tie-breakers are details of the KSU’s loss to Bowling Green.


Ties in winning percentage, and thus for tournament, seeding positions shall be broken as follows:

1. Between TWO teams:
A. Head-to-head competition

B. Division Record (10 games)^ (The MAC no longer uses divisions but hasn’t updated its procedures online.)

C. Winning percentage* vs. ranked conference teams (top to bottom, regardless of division, vs. common opponents regardless of the number of times played)

D. Coin flip

2. For MULTIPLE (3 or more) team ties:
E. Total won-lost record/winning percentage* of games played among the tied teams

F. Two (2)-team tie-breaker procedure goes into effect (refer to A)
[NOTE: Once a three-team tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker will go into effect.]

Wednesday’s game: Bowling Green 69, Kent State 60

A 14-0 Bowling Green run in the second quarter doomed the Flashes.

Kent had led 23-21 after a Nila Blackford layup. But three KSU turnovers and four missed shots later, it was 35-23.

The Flashes managed to close the score to 39-33 by halftime and to 46-44 with three minutes to go in the third quarter. But BG led by between three and eight points for the rest of the game.

“We got to that spot where we were down five, down six, down four, down five, down six,” coach Todd Starkey said in a brief postgame radio interview. “We couldn’t quite get over the top and take the lead.”

Lindsey Thall led Kent State with 22 points, four assists, two blocks and four 3-point baskets. The 3-pointers gave her 212 for her career, which ties the KSU record set by Larissa Lurken between 2013 and 2017.

Hannah Young was the only other KSU player in double figures with 10 points. Freshman Bridget Dunn had eight points, four steals, two assists and a block. Blackford led KSU in rebounding with six. Casey Santoro had four assists.

Kent State made 42.1% of its shots and 28% of its 3-pointers; BG shot 45.5% and 31.6% from 3-point distance. Statistics were pretty even except for a 14-1 margin for Bowling Green on fast-break points.

Box score

MAC standings